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NRSP comments concerning the CBC Web piece
Wording climate change policy no easy task

There are a number of easily spotted problems with this piece:

1 – Its headline suggests that the purpose of the IPCC meeting in Spain was to recommend policy. In fact, the IPCC states “… IPCC is neutral with respect to policy and its assessment reports are not policy prescriptive." They violate this rule often, for example in the presentation by IPCC Chairman Dr. R. K. Pachauri where the general policy of reducing GHG emissions is prescribed instead of merely adapting to whatever climate change occurs (or engaging in geo-engineering activities such as Sun shades, etc.). It is not the IPCC’s job to “word climate change policy” – that will be done at the CoP13 meeting in Bali, Indonesia in December.

2 – It is stated in the piece: "John Stone, vice-chair of one of the three IPCC groups, [said] "The science is getting stronger and stronger and stronger, that the imperative for governments to act is getting stronger and stronger and stronger.""

NRSP Allied Scientist Dr. David Wojick responds, “Stone has it exactly backwards. The science supporting the theory of human induced climate change is getting weaker by the year. This is because we are discovering new forms of natural variability in climate at every turn. Ironically, many of these discoveries are initially reported as evidence of human induced global warming, then on further study they turn out to be natural - changes in ocean circulation, for example. Stone's backward view of science is doubtless taken from the media, not the [scientific] journals. Stone is not even part of the IPCC science group [Working Group I that looks into the causes of climate change; Dr. Stone is part of WG II, which looks at the impacts of climate change].”

NRSP Allied Scientist Professor Wibjörn Karlén comments: “As long as IPCC and others, including scientists, official and journalists are looking at the so-called GLOBAL TEMPERATURE presented by IPCC as a true view of climate, I can understand them. As soon as one has studied temperature data from NASA or the Nordic database NORDKLIM, both available on the net, it becomes clear that the global temperature in fact has varied after the 1940s but has not increased. Considering this fact, the IPCC view is incorrect; the views are becoming weaker with each study of the real climate.”

Click here to read a detailed rebuttal of Dr. Stone’s comment written by NRSP Allied Scientist, U.K.-based Dr. Richard Courtney.

Contrary to Dr. Stone’s implications, science does not dictate policy. Policy choice is a political decision. For him to say that science is dictating what policy ought to be shows that he is mixing the science with his own political views.

3 – From the piece: "Stone says the conclusions the [IPCC] delegates are trying to sum up are very clear. Climate change is unequivocal. Temperature changes are very likely due to human influence, we are seeing the impacts already, they will get greater, and we have the tools to act. "The scientific question about is this real or not has been settled. And it is legitimately a threat. It's a threat to our civilizations, our humanity, our ecosystems and the like, and only a fool walks away from a threat.""

Poverty is a far greater threat to civilization than climate change. For Stone to say that small fluctuations in temperature is a threat to civilization smacks of political advocacy. There is nothing in the AR4 scientific report that would support such a claim.

NRSP Chair Dr. Tim Ball explains: “Stone's comment includes, without his knowledge or understanding, the two fallacies that buttress the current argument about climate and general perception of the environment. 1. The first fallacy is the incorrect underlying philosophy that permeates our view of the world; the concept of uniformitarianism that assumes change is gradual over long periods of time. 2. There never was any doubt about climate change being real, equivocally or unequivocally. The problem is very few have any idea that it changes all the time and, more importantly, how much and how quickly it changes. Stone's comment is at the base of what emerges from these fallacies, namely the current practice of claiming that what is natural is unnatural. He pronounces that climate change is real as if it is something new and by implication due to humans, when it has always occurred and the current changes are well with natural variability.”

Click here to read the comments of Dr. Courtney.


The piece Wording climate change policy no easy task links to a general CBC Web page article Global warming explained, in which there are also some significant errors:

1 – From the piece: "Eleven of the highest average global annual temperatures recorded since 1861 have come in the past 12 years."

Few countries have reliable records prior to the last few decades. Only the U.S. and Europe have continuous records back to the mid-1800s. Canada's official climate data only starts in 1948. Since the mid-1970s the world has lost two-thirds of its climate monitoring stations, half of them disappearing in the early 1990s. There simply isn't the data to support these claims at the global level. Since 1979 there has been data from weather satellites, but it shows relatively little warming, less than the IPCC has claimed should be underway.

Click here to read Dr. Courtney’s remarks.

Click here to read the comments of NRSP Chair Dr. Tim Ball.

2 – From the piece: "Over thousands of years, changes in atmospheric conditions, such as gas concentrations, and singular events - volcanic eruptions, for instance - have caused climate change. Most of those changes have taken hundreds or thousands of years to play out. But climatologists now agree that the world appears to be in a sustained, relatively rapid period of warming."

This is meaninglessly vague. As for whether the Earth is in an unusually warm era, that was the aim of the MBH 98 hockey stick graph, which has been discredited. The U.S National Academy of Sciences panel said there simply isn't the data to say how today's climate compares with that from before 1600.

NRSP Allied Scientist Professor Wibjörn Karlén responds to the CBC quotation above: “Considering only the last 30 years, this statement may be more or less correct. Considering any longer period of time, it is wrong. The world was approximately as warm as now during the 1920s - 1940s, there is no distinct trend in records going back to the late 1700s, it was warmer around 1100 AD, etc. Greenland ice cores (NORDGRIP) indicate a distinctly warmer climate about 6000 BP and so do numerous other palaeorecords. The climate is not becoming warmer, it is just fluctuating.”

Click here to read Dr. Courtney’s remarks.

3 – From the piece: “Scientists also suggest global warming will increase the severity – though not the number – of extreme weather events such as El Nino and hurricanes.”

NRSP Allied Scientist Dr. Madhav Khandekar has written extensively on this topic – click here for a sample of his work.

NRSP Allied Scientist Dr. Richard Courtney asserts, “I would not dispute that some scientists may make such suggestions when seeking research funds, but there is no evidence that global warming will increase the incidence of such events. Indeed, there is evidence that global warming would reduce them.”

4 - From the piece: “Scientists tend to point to the Arctic and the Antarctic climates as the signs of things to come. Climate change in those areas could rise as high as six degrees in the winter months, according to some projections from the IPCC.”

Climatologists "agree" on these predictions? The only recent survey of climatologists reveals considerable disagreement: http://dvsun3.gkss.de/BERICHTE/GKSS_Berichte_2007/GKSS_2007_11.pdf. See page 5 where is written, "Respondents perceived no change [between 1996 and 2003] in the ability of models to accurately verify the climatic conditions for which they are calibrated and in neither year suggested this ability to be very high. When asked generally about the models’ skill to predict the future the responses indicate that in general scientists do not have much faith in this ability."

Click here to read Dr. Courtney’s remarks.

Click here to read the comments of NRSP Chair Dr. Tim Ball.


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